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Post by Ryu on Mar 18, 2005 22:48:17 GMT -5
After reading this, can anyone tell me why he should be allowed to keep his char, if infact fenix_vasterx is a char? [8:36:10 PM] Maire_Fallon : Your little friend wants you to quit talking trash and put your e-dukes up. [8:36:14 PM] flawed_pacifism : We should get together and RP. [8:36:15 PM] waterdragon082002 : she's one of my favorite characters [8:36:15 PM] fbloodlust leaves. [8:36:15 PM] Maire_Fallon points to fenix_vasterx [8:36:18 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Aww, how cute. [8:36:22 PM] brack_dragoon_knight : I got the name Soul in almost every forum... [8:36:24 PM] rising_dragon_ryu takes fenix off ignore [8:36:25 PM] cute_lil_tifa_lockhart : mine too lol [8:36:30 PM] waterdragon082002 : brb [8:36:47 PM] the_reincarnated_aerin leaves. [8:36:47 PM] denaieh_endallin leaves. [8:36:49 PM] Maire_Fallon : Put it this way, eric.. [8:36:50 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Fine, I make the room you tag. Your fenix name Vs my rui name T1 ic rp, no spars, if someone dies that is it. [8:36:55 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : ryu^ [8:36:58 PM] waterdragon082002 : i'm back [8:37:01 PM] Maire_Fallon : Someone tried to tell Jason/Loyd that he was a newb, because he PC T1ed.. [8:37:05 PM] Maire_Fallon : He says, and I quote: [8:37:05 PM] cute_lil_tifa_lockhart leaves. [8:37:06 PM] ooc_persona_britt : =\ [8:37:15 PM] mostly_afk_keeper : thanx dragoon, that's better [8:37:16 PM] fenix_vasterx : Ryu, that's OOC to IC - you're the newb if you declare that. [8:37:17 PM] Maire_Fallon : "How can I be a newb if I destroyed the universe?" [8:37:22 PM] covenant_chaos : I finally role played out Sacha getting his Wrathful Phantom weapon set. [8:37:25 PM] brack_dragoon_knight : Lol... [8:37:25 PM] fenix_vasterx : So you're going to spar me, or you're accepting you're a newb and then you're fighting me. [8:37:27 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : I declared rp, not ooc ic crossing. [8:37:27 PM] Maire_Fallon : Um Fenix [8:37:28 PM] covenant_chaos : Bow, Arrow, and the quiver. [8:37:29 PM] covenant_chaos : =X [8:37:32 PM] Maire_Fallon : You just told him to put his e-dukes up [8:37:35 PM] brack_dragoon_knight : He tried to take me on at one point.... [8:37:37 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Nos hit ~_~ [8:37:38 PM] flawed_pacifism : I need to find Kaosu a weapon. [8:37:40 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : No poopie^ [8:37:41 PM] fenix_vasterx : So now, you either accept that and fight, or don't fight at all. [8:37:44 PM] fenix_vasterx : So go ahead kiddo'. [8:37:44 PM] flawed_pacifism : He lost his main one due to his devolution. [8:37:45 PM] brack_dragoon_knight : Got all pissy when I began to school him.. [8:37:47 PM] Maire_Fallon : Isn't that you taking it IC from OOC? [8:37:47 PM] brack_dragoon_knight : But [8:37:53 PM] brack_dragoon_knight : Don't call him Jason... [8:37:55 PM] covenant_chaos : www.ayenee.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=132861#132861[8:37:58 PM] Maire_Fallon : Don't call him Jason? [8:37:59 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Gotta love someone backing out after sticking their foot in their mouth. [8:38:00 PM] brack_dragoon_knight : That makes me think of Jason B [8:38:10 PM] Maire_Fallon : Eh. No, Jason B's on a different plane. [8:38:10 PM] fenix_vasterx : Backing out? I'm waiting for you to accept it. [8:38:11 PM] sailortelulu enters. [8:38:12 PM] fenix_vasterx : Drew, Brittany - you want to see this? [8:38:13 PM] Maire_Fallon : Fenix [8:38:17 PM] flawed_pacifism Making a Profile right now. [8:38:18 PM] ooc_persona_britt : I have you on follow. [8:38:19 PM] Maire_Fallon : YOU are the one taking OOC IC [8:38:19 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : I just did ^_^ glad you realised it [8:38:20 PM] covenant_chaos : Can't wait untill I can RP him using his new Dragoon Evolution. [8:38:21 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Now tag up [8:38:23 PM] covenant_chaos : =X [8:38:30 PM] flawed_pacifism Tags Raz. [8:38:32 PM] waterdragon082002 : damn and I thought I was done taking care of kids today [8:38:34 PM] Maire_Fallon : You told him to put his e-dukes up and quit talking trash. Like I said earlier.. hypocrite. [8:38:39 PM] waterdragon082002 : brb [8:38:52 PM] fenix_vasterx leaves. [8:38:52 PM] ooc_persona_britt leaves. [8:38:54 PM] sailortelulu leaves. [8:38:58 PM] mostly_afk_keeper : heh, I sparred him once and he got pissed just because my char followed his instead of just sitting there with his universe destruction and taking it [8:38:59 PM] covenant_chaos changes nickname. [8:38:59 PM] Maire_Fallon : He ran? [8:39:02 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : It's cool maire, he somehow did not grasp that i accepted? Now since- did that chicken poopie run?
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Post by Ryu on Mar 18, 2005 22:49:15 GMT -5
[8:45:05 PM] fenix_vasterx enters. [8:45:05 PM] covenant_chaos enters. [8:45:05 PM] flawed_pacifism enters. [8:45:10 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Oh there he is [8:45:15 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Saved yourself from auto death [8:45:15 PM] cornered6863 : He had made a room. [8:45:16 PM] fenix_vasterx : You challenged Ryu - but you didn't come. [8:45:16 PM] Maire_Fallon enters. [8:45:16 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Now tag up. [8:45:18 PM] Malevolent_Shard : Who dave? [8:45:20 PM] fenix_vasterx : Now hurry up please. [8:45:27 PM] gandor_firewarrior leaves. [8:45:29 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Uh, no you challenged, hence you telling me i had to accept? [8:45:29 PM] chibi_knight_andro hugs yoshimi [8:45:36 PM] soulveyer enters. [8:45:37 PM] cornered6863 : You were the challenger. [8:45:40 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : I stated, T1 ic rp, fenix V ryu I make the room [8:45:41 PM] fenix_vasterx : I told you if you wanted, to back up your trash talk. [8:45:43 PM] mostly_afk_keeper : wouldn't count that auto death as legal anyway, [8:45:46 PM] fenix_vasterx : And you challenged me to T1.. lol. [8:45:48 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Now tag kid [8:45:51 PM] soulveyer Tags up..... [8:45:54 PM] soulveyer : I wanna see this poopie [8:45:58 PM] Maire_Fallon : fenix_vasterx : And, Ryu - if you wish to think that any "2 week newb" on Yahoo role play could own me, put your dukes up and stop e-trash talking. [8:45:59 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Or run again? [8:45:59 PM] soulveyer : If it gets started.. [8:46:06 PM] cornered6863 : He never ran. [8:46:08 PM] soulveyer : Side note.... [8:46:09 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : He ran [8:46:12 PM] covenant_chaos : Can we get past the bull poopie. [8:46:13 PM] cornered6863 : No, he didn't. [8:46:13 PM] soulveyer : Anyone need Ayecents? [8:46:13 PM] waterdragon082002 : are you ok know andro [8:46:16 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Yes he did. [8:46:19 PM] cornered6863 : No, he didn't. [8:46:19 PM] mostly_afk_keeper : doubtful raz [8:46:20 PM] fenix_vasterx : I'm sitting right here - did I run? [8:46:21 PM] covenant_chaos : And just go aheada and go there? [8:46:22 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Yes he did. [8:46:22 PM] cornered6863 : He made a room. [8:46:26 PM] fenix_vasterx : And you're still not going Ryu, you're bitching out. [8:46:28 PM] covenant_chaos : Ohh, send me some, Soul. [8:46:29 PM] covenant_chaos : =X [8:46:30 PM] cornered6863 : How many times are you going to say "yes he did"? [8:46:31 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Yes, he ran from this room and into another [8:46:32 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : he ran [8:46:34 PM] covenant_chaos : For a fellow Dragoon. [8:46:35 PM] covenant_chaos : [8:46:36 PM] Maire_Fallon : You came back because none of your PMs were getting through, David. [8:46:38 PM] cornered6863 : Well, he's back now. [8:46:39 PM] soulveyer : I got 1.5 billion [8:46:39 PM] Maire_Fallon : You had no choice. [8:46:41 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Until it gets through your dense skull? [8:46:46 PM] soulveyer : On 4 different accounts [8:46:47 PM] cornered6863 : Mine? [8:46:48 PM] cornered6863 : No. [8:46:49 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Good, waiting to be tagged? [8:46:53 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : I am that is [8:46:55 PM] fenix_vasterx : Lol.. Ryu, when you can stop bitching out and make the room. [8:46:57 PM] covenant_chaos : >O [8:46:57 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Since i am making the room. [8:47:00 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Good [8:47:00 PM] soulveyer : How much you want? [8:47:01 PM] fenix_vasterx : I'll be convinced yoiu aren't running. [8:47:02 PM] fenix_vasterx : [8:47:02 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Everyone tagged? [8:47:05 PM] covenant_chaos : Send me some. [8:47:09 PM] soulveyer : How much? [8:47:12 PM] wingsblackheart enters. [8:47:14 PM] cornered6863 : Waiting.. [8:47:16 PM] soulveyer Has over 6 billion total [8:47:23 PM] wingsblackheart dark angel lady walks in slowly (pop) [8:47:23 PM] covenant_chaos : What you think is right.. [8:47:29 PM] rising_dragon_ryu leaves. You Joined: House of Pain (tombstone rpg) :1 ( ) [8:47:30 PM] Maire_Fallon enters. [8:47:30 PM] cornered6863 enters. [8:47:31 PM] covenant_chaos enters. [8:47:31 PM] flawed_pacifism enters. [8:47:31 PM] soulveyer enters. [8:47:31 PM] mostly_afk_keeper enters. [8:47:31 PM] Malevolent_Shard enters. [8:47:31 PM] fenix_vasterx enters. [8:47:31 PM] covenant_chaos : It's not right of me to pick. [8:47:40 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (Nifty) [8:47:41 PM] cornered6863 : Tombstone RPG? [8:47:45 PM] soulveyer : I can make 1 billion per half hour.. [8:47:57 PM] covenant_chaos : >_> A billion then? [8:48:01 PM] soulveyer : A'ight [8:48:04 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (everything out of bubbles is ic. If you do not know the rules to T1 you better learn fast) [8:48:10 PM] fenix_vasterx : Fenix doesn't go under Tombstone, unfortunately. =/ So we'll have to keep it to Ayenee, Seelie, or TiC for neutral ruling on RPG.
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Post by Ryu on Mar 18, 2005 22:53:36 GMT -5
[8:55:28 PM] rising_dragon_ryu His journey had lead him to the House of Pain in the lands of Tombstone. Darkness had swept over the lands hours previous and left the city he was in under a blanket of smog that reflected the glow of the city street lights like a scene from Dantes Inferno. Archaic buildings lined the streets that glistened with dew as the night chilled cobblestone walk ways. -c- [8:55:29 PM] fenix_vasterx : *** Shardy will be ignored. <- Aren't you too old to be online? [8:55:32 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Good.) [8:55:44 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Too old for your stupid childish bull poopie.. Yes) [8:55:47 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (^_^) [8:56:00 PM] Maire_Fallon . o O (Aren't you too young to be online? ARen't you meant to have a life at your age? Drink, drugs, sex? Whatever.) [8:56:11 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (This is what Dave does in every fight.. Runs his mouth with nothing to back it up.) [8:56:16 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Therefore he sucks.) [8:56:25 PM] Maire_Fallon . o O (I know, Mal.) [8:57:07 PM] Maire_Fallon . o O (Right, I have to go. Have fun. Don't let Dave wimp out, again.) [8:57:09 PM] Maire_Fallon leaves. [8:57:15 PM] covenant_chaos : ... have any of you beat him in T1? [8:57:16 PM] covenant_chaos : [8:57:18 PM] rising_dragon_ryu Adorned in organic fabrics, sleeves shredded from arms contoured with muscle that seemed always flexed with raw power surging through tissue wrapped around conditioned bone. Clenched in his right hand was a simple small bag, roughly the size of a human head -c- [8:57:26 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (He is beat all the time. Dip poopie) [8:57:30 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (Has dave ever beat anyone in T1? Has dave ever even had a T1 fight?) [8:57:32 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (He just won't take the death.) [8:57:35 PM] covenant_chaos : ... [8:57:41 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (He never finishes.) [8:57:46 PM] fighter_of_discipline : ... [8:57:46 PM] covenant_chaos : Honey, refrain form exchaning ugly text with me. [8:57:47 PM] fighter_of_discipline : wow [8:57:47 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Dude. now shut the fornicate up) [8:57:51 PM] fighter_of_discipline : These guys are fornicateing morons ... [8:57:55 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (I am not your honey lil boy.) [8:58:02 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (He leaves this fight with out an agreement with me before hand it is a forfit) [8:58:04 PM] fighter_of_discipline : *Is actually hoping David kills them* >.> [8:58:07 PM] covenant_chaos : Awe, look at her go with insults. [8:58:08 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (He won't.) [8:58:11 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Lol) [8:58:15 PM] covenant_chaos : Can we act like adults? [8:58:19 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (He just thinks he is all that.) [8:58:19 PM] flawed_pacifism : ...@all these piss ant fighters. [8:58:21 PM] covenant_chaos : Since you're all mature? [8:58:22 PM] covenant_chaos : [8:58:23 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Can't you?) [8:58:26 PM] fighter_of_discipline : Shardy . o O (He is beat all the time. Dip poopie) [8:58:27 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (^_^) [8:58:32 PM] fighter_of_discipline : David is beat all the time? [8:58:32 PM] flawed_pacifism : Im going to laugh when David annihilates this bitch. [8:58:33 PM] fighter_of_discipline : Since when? [8:58:34 PM] fighter_of_discipline : o.o [8:58:35 PM] covenant_chaos : What have I done thats immature? [8:58:36 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (He is a dead beat) [8:58:41 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (That is true.) [8:58:46 PM] covenant_chaos : You're the one who is throwing out insults. [8:58:50 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Learn to type insults correctly.) [8:58:52 PM] covenant_chaos : Shame, shame, shame. [8:59:06 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Then they might be taken in the spirit of childishness that they are given.) [8:59:13 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Child you are hillarious.) [8:59:19 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Don't make me laugh too much.) [8:59:27 PM] soulveyer . o O ( You got AIM up? ) [8:59:30 PM] fighter_of_discipline : Who put a stick up this chicks ass? [8:59:30 PM] covenant_chaos : ... [8:59:31 PM] fighter_of_discipline : >.> [8:59:39 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (afk while the children try to be insulting.) [8:59:40 PM] covenant_chaos : Lol. And I'm a child. [8:59:42 PM] Malevolent_Shard . o O (Lol) [8:59:42 PM] covenant_chaos : =X [8:59:46 PM] fighter_of_discipline : Really..... [9:00:08 PM] covenant_chaos : This is a reason why I can't stand these old as fornicate RPers. [9:00:11 PM] fighter_of_discipline : What the fornicate happened while I was afk =\ [9:00:15 PM] covenant_chaos : Think they're all old, wise. [9:00:28 PM] covenant_chaos : Bitch, hop off whatever illusion you're doped on. [9:00:33 PM] fighter_of_discipline : David and that Ryu guy is fighting? [9:00:33 PM] rising_dragon_ryu Held behind the black belt around his waste were two handles each two feet in length with leather straps at one end and whatever may be at the other end, concealed in the folds of the remnants of his gi. He wiped his feet at the entrance at the door to The House of Pain where a sign on the steel door read "YOUR POWERS WILL BE CHECKED AT THIS DOOR" -c- [9:00:36 PM] flawed_pacifism : Old? [9:00:38 PM] flawed_pacifism : They're newbs. [9:01:13 PM] covenant_chaos : Well, since I'm a child. [9:01:19 PM] covenant_chaos : She has to be old as fornicate. [9:01:32 PM] fighter_of_discipline : Apparently, eh? [9:02:05 PM] covenant_chaos : Simply enough that the variables given in this situation prove my supremacy even over adults? [9:02:06 PM] covenant_chaos : [9:02:12 PM] mostly_afk_keeper . o O ( hey! I'm one of those old rpers! ) [9:02:28 PM] covenant_chaos : But you don't act like you're 12 years old. [9:02:36 PM] covenant_chaos : Now go back to being AFK, Melissa. [9:02:41 PM] fenix_vasterx : Well Chris, we're supposed to be fighting but he's making me cross OOC to IC with information on coming to tombstone or something? [9:02:42 PM] fighter_of_discipline : But you don't go around calling people children [9:02:44 PM] mostly_afk_keeper . o O ( well, not all the time, ) [9:02:49 PM] fighter_of_discipline : ...... [9:02:50 PM] fenix_vasterx : I guess I'm just posting Fenix being in a random location and waiting for an OOC spar.. or something. [9:02:52 PM] fighter_of_discipline : IC? [9:02:53 PM] fighter_of_discipline : o.O [9:02:55 PM] mostly_afk_keeper . o O ( lol, I try not to confused ) [9:03:01 PM] fighter_of_discipline : It was an OOC bitchfest? [9:03:18 PM] rising_dragon_ryu Walking across the threshold his eyes had to adjust to the dark lighted interior that throbbed with a beat of its own. Almost as soon as he felt it, the sensation was gone as the affects of the buildings wards removed all powers from himself as it did with any being that entered the structure, leaving him with his natural skills, just taking every special ability that he might possess.-e- [9:03:19 PM] fenix_vasterx : He challenged me from OOC and stated I was forced into "IC RP" in a world that Fenix doesn't even know of? [9:03:21 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (Your turn) [9:03:21 PM] fenix_vasterx : Lol.... yeah. [9:03:23 PM] fighter_of_discipline : What is it with people and crossing the OOC/IC line -_- [9:03:27 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (Oh was that your turn?) [9:03:28 PM] fenix_vasterx : Yeah, and I'm not doing it. [9:03:32 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (Because everything out of bubbles is ic) [9:03:46 PM] fighter_of_discipline : ...... [9:03:46 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (And that is kind of a lame assed turn) [9:03:52 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (I will let you have another if you wish) [9:04:06 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (But you have to use continue tabs on posts that end before the turn is over.) [9:04:07 PM] fighter_of_discipline : fornicate those /think bubbles >.> [9:04:07 PM] fenix_vasterx : Actually, I won't post with bubbles. When I post, it is with colons for the RP. [9:04:16 PM] fenix_vasterx : So you give me all the chances you want kid, but you can bitch out. [9:04:42 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (Whatever? You were warned and the judges will see what was agree'd to and act according.) [9:04:44 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (Your post) [9:04:48 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (afk's to get a drink) [9:04:50 PM] fenix_vasterx : You can't auto-death me or force me to use "think", especially since this is an OOC spar. Now I will continue my post and you will accept this like the bitch you are. [9:04:52 PM] fenix_vasterx : Thank you for your time.
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Post by Ryu on Mar 18, 2005 22:54:43 GMT -5
[9:08:28 PM] fenix_vasterx Without purpose or meaning, somehow he had found himself upon foreign soil of something other than Seelie, Eden, or Ayenee. Each multiverse possessed the capability to access another, and from there he had actually manifested himself elsewhere, upon another corporal plane that was somewhat similar to past memories of others. Through the mere manifestation of his humanoid shell, Fenix was already causing the fabrics of such an insignificantly <c> [9:08:33 PM] fenix_vasterx woven realm to shudder in his wake, crippling portions of the underlying Demi Planar network just by his thought alone. Legendary for his psychotic behavior and the decimation for behemoths of clans, Vasterx was known as a thorough-bred killer that was capable of extending a massive amount of power into the physical world through his knowledge in the arcane and the mind. Without much regard, he stood silently in the midst of a drizzling of rain.. the heavens above him crackling <c> [9:08:37 PM] covenant_chaos : Confused is - Chris Kaos form .com [9:08:39 PM] fenix_vasterx with lightning and thunder, the sky sparking with light that would randomly spark destructively with grounded objects such as trees or bushes. Swept around his slender frame was a charcoal cloak, its soft material wavering violently in the rushes of wind that gusted over the plains, far from any possibile human establishment if such lingered in such a desolate, life-drained area, only consumed with its gaia's mana, or the production of. <e> [9:08:47 PM] covenant_chaos : Kaosu, is Kageru, among other names. [9:08:54 PM] covenant_chaos : Erh, that's it. [9:08:55 PM] fenix_vasterx : There is my post for the OOC spar that you challenged me to. [9:08:56 PM] fighter_of_discipline : aka Ron o.o [9:09:00 PM] fenix_vasterx : Post back, or you forfeit. [9:09:01 PM] fighter_of_discipline : Fenix is David .... [9:09:09 PM] fighter_of_discipline : I don't know this other fornicate ... [9:09:15 PM] soulveyer : ....there are too many Davids..... [9:09:31 PM] soulveyer : The only one I care to know is the one that calls himself Dacey.. [9:10:00 PM] rising_dragon_ryu Walks to the bar of the House of Pain and takes a seat. Ordering a glass of water for the time being and inquiring if they served food while placing his bag on the bar before him. [9:10:03 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (Your turn.) [9:10:23 PM] covenant_chaos : ... > | [9:10:27 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (gotta love all the godmoding auto's you performed btw.) [9:10:33 PM] rising_dragon_ryu . o O (Truely awesome.) [9:10:38 PM] covenant_chaos : Seriously. [9:10:43 PM] covenant_chaos : Depressing. [9:10:45 PM] fenix_vasterx : If you're doing IC RP it is not valid, and until you've actually posted to the fight.. which I'll give you fifteen minutes from this point, I am not posting.
After this point, more bitching etc and then him refusing to make any further posts claiming im somehow forfiting the fight? If this was posted on the death board would he be declared dead?
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Fenix
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Assimilate a bullet into your skull and then I'll tell you.
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Post by Fenix on Mar 18, 2005 23:23:10 GMT -5
Well, I was notified of this being posted on Tombstone.
Unfortunately it was done so just for a mere attempt at humiliation, or some form of slandering that is childish by itself. Fortunately, I feel as though that somewhere in here is where I was challenged after I suggested Ryu merely back up his statement on "two week old newbs" being able to beat me into the ground.
I guess the accusation was somewhat ignorant, but I suppose he took my response as some form of, "I must wreck his image and do everything I can to ruin him". I'll wait and see what spins off of this before I say anything serious. I feel as though the childish stupidity displayed on my part with insults was found by the equally thick headed nature displayed by a role player incapable of distinguishing OOC from IC.
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Post by Corban on Mar 18, 2005 23:52:05 GMT -5
"I declare RP." Well if you declare Rp then you realize that people have the right to Rp with who they want to. After all, Rp is all about fun, and I personally wouldn't feel like Rping with a herm catgirl. Therefore, it's my perogative. What you are doing is OOC/IC crossing, or "Fighting for an OOC reason." And what would that be? Why, you want to prove once and for all who's the newbie, duh. [8:37:59 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Gotta love someone backing out after sticking their foot in their mouth. Ryu, if you had the audacity to claim that what you're doing is legimately RP AND IN THE SAME BREATH hold me to fighting standards, then clearly you're a newbie. I wouldn't even waste my time with you o_ô I mean, what if I challenged you to an Rp IC? I'm fairly sure I could murder you, if you fight not only under OOC technicalities such as forced-RP but through OOC technicalities like post-counting. People hung up on artificial means of victory are not trained in the core mechanics which translate properly through all realms. All fantastical realms are built upon fundamental concepts to define their abstract reality much like how Modern standardizes their reality on real physics. For example, Earth-based physics, the presence of magic, certain common beliefs about planes...virtually all fantasy-based realms mention these. By fighting based upon these precepts instead of ephemeral rules which may not apply in another realm, you cultivate a fighting style which transcends realms. This is similar to transfer of occupation: a mathematician--studying the purest type of science in the world--can be any scientist, but it doesn't work the other way around. Remember that. [8:45:10 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Oh there he is [8:45:15 PM] rising_dragon_ryu : Saved yourself from auto death I'm sorry, did you just threaten him with auto-death? Despite the fact that you guys have not yet fought and shown what you're truly made of, you're actually going to claim auto-death? What, are you going to go IC and say "I won the fight. Fenix forfeited via auto-death." You know what I'm gonna say about that? "Great, but who's the best fighter?" Obviously you won't be able to answer that BECAUSE YOU NEVER FOUGHT! When it comes to system conflicts of ANY sort, it's better to just walk away. Can't agree on whether it's a spar or real? Walk away, and pretend it never happened. Can't agree on T2 or T1? Walk away, and pretend it never happened. It's as simple as that. This favors the defendents so people aren't 'forced' into doing something like this. For example, if I went up to a T2er, and just used a 5-para T1 Nova spell on them, and they do their usual dodge...could I auto-kill them? Maybe, if I subscribed to something as lame as that. Of course, they could also T2 me...but what if I have an equally large T1 shield? Can they say after a few words and 5 rounds they pierce my shield despite its IC effects? Again, system conflicts are best left alone. Shape up or shut up. In this case he wants an OOC spar to prove who's the better fighter. Fair enough, but you want to go IC. This begs another question: what if someone's char is nonaggressive? How would that ICness play out? What if you then told them to stop being a wussy and fight you IC?...Is artificially effecting an IC conflict also called metagaming? If you tried the same trick on me, I would laugh at you, as well as everyone else. A claim of an auto-kill upon Corban would not be taken seriously at all =| If I die, I will die in an undeniable fashion (natural IC kill), and not through the petty politics of fighters. I also hold this fact true for other fighters. Claiming auto-kill is pointless. What does it prove, that you're good at realm politics or something? Such things wouldn't be kosher when posted under other death boards. You had good intentions. You wanted to fight. Unfortunately this is a classic case of good intentions, bad execution. A few things to remember:- Don't auto-kill.
- Don't metagame.
- Don't try to entangle other people through obscure OOC mechanisms.
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Post by Sweet Irony on Mar 19, 2005 1:54:59 GMT -5
I was kinda while reading through all of this, but here are my observations: THIS is what -I- see. I see Ryu insulting Fenix: I see Fenix responding with a challenge: I think I have to agree with Maire when she says that Fenix was doing the same thing? If you guys can't see that, you must be blind. I guess a good dose of hypocrisy early in the morning gets the blood racing? I'm no expert T1er, Corban, but it seems every 'realm' I've come across has shared the old 'you accept a challenge then leave the fight without RPing your way out of it.. (or run away before the fight begins) then autodeath can be declared.' I could be wrong, but this is what I've been lead to believe. Fenix left the room without saying where he was going.. Ryu was within his rights to declare it? I'm not sure this issue was ever about who was the 'best' fighter. It was more of an attempt to stop Fenix running his gob off, which he appeared to have been doing even before what was posted @ the transcript. A squashing of egos, if you will.. which doesn't have to be achieved through RP itself. Besides.. Fenix seems to me to be the kind who'd argue every post and keep up the OOC whining and then not accept the outcome unless it went his way, anyhow. But like you pointed out.. we'll never know, huh? Maybe Fenix should quit whining, and realise that he got himself into this pickle all on his ownsome? Just a suggestion.
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Post by Ryu on Mar 19, 2005 2:06:12 GMT -5
Corban says, What you are doing is OOC/IC crossing, or "Fighting for an OOC reason." And what would that be? Why, you want to prove once and for all who's the newbie, duh
Ryu says, So you are saying that fighting ic, is not rp. Or you are saying it is illegal by rp standards to rp over ooc reasons. You are also saying that every ic fight is also void. Try to find one fight that was not inspired by events that happened ooc?
Corban says, Ryu, if you had the audacity to claim that what you're doing is legimately RP – corban
Ryu says, What part of my rp would you like to claim is not legitimate?
Corban says, I wouldn't even waste my time with you o_ô I mean, what if I challenged you to an Rp IC? I'm fairly sure I could murder you, if you fight not only under OOC technicalities such as forced-RP but through OOC technicalities like post-counting. People hung up on artificial means of victory are not trained in the core mechanics which translate properly through all realms. – corban
Ryu says, You flex a lot of ego for someone I have never heard of, nor seen any graves that were made due to your rp. In other words, you are a loud mouth that has only succeeded in misconstruing what actually happened. I was challenged to fight. I stated the stipulations. He agreed. He backed out while claiming I am the one who forfeited. He was the one who talked all the poopie in the rooms saying he “owned” me, auto death rules I do not believe in. However, I am not above using them to make someone put up when they will obviously not shut up.
Corban says, All fantastical realms are built upon fundamental concepts to define their abstract reality much like how Modern standardizes their reality on real physics.
Ryu says, OMG! You mean they are made based on the imagination of people ooc? That means everything ic from them is void! /sarcasm You are in fact the one he stated it is illegal to rp because of ooc.
Corban says, "Great, but who's the best fighter?" Obviously you won't be able to answer that BECAUSE YOU NEVER FOUGHT!
Ryu says, In other words, in your eyes I am on the same level as you and fenix? fornicateing hell I’m going to go shoot myself now
Corban says, When it comes to system conflicts of ANY sort, it's better to just walk away. Can't agree on whether it's a spar or real?
Ryu says, We did agree. Pay attention meat head. He ignored what was agreed to and broke rules anyway.
Corban says, For example, if I went up to a T2er, and just used a 5-para T1 Nova spell on them, and they do their usual dodge...could I auto-kill them?
Ryu says, No because you just made an auto. Learn how to T1.
Corban says, Of course, they could also T2 me...but what if I have an equally large T1 shield?
Ryu says, Tombstone is T1 default last I checked 5 minutes prior to typing this specific response to your question. And from what I can tell tombstone is the only active rpg realm in games chat.
Corban says, If you tried the same trick on me, I would laugh at you, as well as everyone else. A claim of an auto-kill upon Corban would not be taken seriously at all =| If I die, I will die in an undeniable fashion (natural IC kill), and not through the petty politics of fighters.
Ryu says, Fair enough. And if you do the same thing fenix just did expect to be treated the same way. It is bull poopie to expect to be able to push role players around when you are obviously not a role player. To twist and degrade the rp rules so you can inflate an ego that has not been earned through any means. You step up to me and try to push me around you will get punked. Just like fenix did and like you are getting now.
A few things to remember. First, get educated. You do not even know how to perform a spell in T1. Second, open your mind. You live in a box that says the only rule for ooc/ic crossing is when you fight someone because they challenged you ooc. That is a great reason to get ic with someone and rp enough to have a reason to start an ic fight. Both of you have a goal in mind you both want to reach. Third, realize the fact self important people rarely are and it is obvious you think you are important and you are not.
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Assimilate a bullet into your skull and then I'll tell you.
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Post by Fenix on Mar 19, 2005 10:18:58 GMT -5
The irony of this matter would be the fact that I suggested a fight and did not directly challenge. In fact, I would have declared that a "true role player" would need to T1 against me, but I did not - Ryu openly stated T1, IC RP match over what?
No really, over what?
If it is expected that challenges should be met with equal, if not more hostily in auto-death declarations, then I do believe everything must be in order, such as the role play being legal and not someone else attempting to force another into the confines of match to decide who's character dies over insulting.
It's slightly funny how things were turned around against me, starting with the "newbs could beat Fenix" comment - and yes, I did generalize that. But, of course, I am in a sector of chat that has a tightly knit group, or could wind up appearing to be. When I whine, which would be standing up for what is right, I find myself to be challenged by others who think that it's merely bitching. Another funny thing.. if Ryu did think that I could be beaten by newbs all over, why didn't he just take the OOC spar and stick up for his accusations?
Even now Ryu runs rampant with an ego that goes unchecked, dare I deflect his motives, his intentions, and even his insults over toward him. If someone really wishes to get technical, the "I bet" that was hidden within his statements, since they were assumptions, was a challenge in its own. Now, what is the response to that - more ego on here, and trash talk that is unnecessary? Carrying it on is truly a sign of immaturity, and you most certainly are furthering yourself to look worse than any other.
It's simple enough Ryu.. with hands down and challenges thrown out the window, you trash talked me and would not back up anything without trying to force me to lose my character through cross ic. Psychological games are funny to watch, but get annoying when the person trying to utilize them clearly blows at it.
And Hell, lets go ahead and straighten out something else - as one person did witness for me, I made a room and Maire followed along with several other people moments afterward. I even PM'd Ryu and told him to come for the fight, but I did not obtain an answer or reply. Kind of funny how things work.
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Post by Corban on Mar 19, 2005 10:35:45 GMT -5
However, the premises of the IC RP--a pretense which would give Ryu that right--were never hammered out. This wasn't a legal Rp and Fenix just suddenly jumped ship. No, they had problems from the get go. It's like trying to solve an equation that involves dividing by zero. You're not gonna be able to solve it becuse one part is just GLARINGLY impossible! No Ryu, I'm saying by dragging him into an RP you forfeit your usual little rights, and it falls under a different set of rules. While Rping then fighting each other is not illegal, you can't just force someone to fight you in an IC RP. Ryu: "Hey, I challenge you to an Rp fight!" Corban: "Uh, ok. *char hops IC, Rps with someone*" Ryu: "Dude, you're not fighting me! What the hell?" Corban: "...I thought you said we were gonna Rp?" Ryu: "I'm just gonna kill you right now, saying I have a bounty or something " Corban: ...*destroys* Ohoho, trying to entrap me by locking RP with OOC will not work on me =P If you did agree, then what's with the OOC/IC conflict, eh? Answer me that. Last time I checked, a vast majority of fights were T2. Your assumption that I'm not a roleplay falls in deaf ears. Your continual false accusations, and the subsequent arguments based on those assumptions, are all nulled =| I do not twist and degrade the Rp rules. Like I said: I go by a system which plays nicely with all other systems. I don't like to deal with juggling many rules and I'm quite the RealmJumper, so this approach is most convenient for me. Plus, others appreciate how I don't inundate my Rp with references to combat. Perhaps you read my response wrong, Ryu: I was stereotyping T1 and T2 and demonstrating how people of two systems who cannot agree on fighting mechanics will end up in a big argument. You miss the point, and obviously going ad hominem on me. You might cause any other person to bend over, but I've argued with the likes of you for a long time =_= I live in a very large box that says the only rule of OOC/IC crossing is when you use fighting mechanics to artificially force someone into an IC RP fight. For example, let's take this week. I had finals, and I didn't feel like Rping. However, someone had a hit on me, so they challenged me, y'know? Now, am I forced to accept that? I said "meet me again over the weekend," but they didn't accept and said that by refusing I am auto-dead. Now does that seem very fair to you? =( I mean sure, fighting IC is great, but when you do something like that to force people, that's just not right. Now you may not think I'm important, but that doesn't stop me from trying to make myself seem important =P Now I admit, I have an ego. Sometimes it flares out and burns people, but most of the time it sharpens into a sword, and becomes the drive for me to be the best I can be. I come from another realm. Namely, that of Ayenee. Now, you can bash the name all you want; it's not like I am a direct representative of it. I'm merely a good example of an Rper from Ayenee who jumps realms =X To me, what you say is blasphemy since I can imagine poor little Rpers being forced into fights and getting their asses kicked. Crying, they flee Rp, never to return again. When rules favor the aggressor things get ugly. Under that reality it would be perfectly alright for me to go around challenging people, killing them... ...And that sort of thing just doesn't feel right to me Plus, my char is a sort of nonaggressor. You know..because he likes to protect people.
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Post by Corban on Mar 19, 2005 10:38:10 GMT -5
If you guys want to fight and determine who's a newb, then for God's sake just make an OOC fight! =| Flash your skills there with no compunctions!
The answer seems obvious to me. My char doesn't too much improvement now, and yet people still challenge me to see how well they can fight.
Now I'm not a greedy person; if they're afraid of losing their char, YET they want to test their mettle against me, then the answer's obvious.
To satisfy both parties, compromise =D
...Unless one party's sole objective is to collect heads. Then OOC might not be an option.
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Post by Lord Creed on Mar 19, 2005 22:17:44 GMT -5
Fenix and Ryu:
Over that. You challenged and he chose the format you could prove yourself over.
That would be eden’s original rules. When you were challenged and you did not accept the fight you were declared auto dead. Those stipulations had to be modified due to the amount of friends to the admin who would get challenged and not accept. However the original rule stayed the same for the few years that eden stayed open, “Defender chooses the style.” Looks like ryu is another bastard product of corrupt eden “rules.” Someone you would no doubt admire fenix, considering you are still actively promoting the fantasy concept that eden is still an active realm, when it has been shut down for over a year. The people you hang around also advocate the idea that eden is the original realm, that eden predates ayenee and that the admin from eden are now the admin to ayenee. Now I am not saying that those are your views, just that the people that have those views are your comrades. If you knew any better you would inform them, but somehow I doubt you know anything other then how to run your mouth with the most ridiculous concepts that leap into your imagination.
When you whine, it is bitching. And nothing is right about what you bitch over that I have ever seen or heard from, especially from your own words. You do not even have the logic to recognize the fact you are the one who issued the challenge out of this whole mess. Role playing it out would have been the honorable way to settle the mess. However that was beyond your capabilities and ryu was not bright enough to recognize that and should have stuck you on ignore.
It was ryu’s privilege to chose how to settle it once you challenged him. When you stated you would only spar you proved “any newb” can take you. At least “newb’s” rp, you don’t.
I’m sure ryu probably thinks the same of you just as many others do. Thing is little guy, you had a chance to “check his ego” and you chose instead to whine and bitch about ryu’s unchecked ego and not check it yourself.
Thing is fenix we have watched you run through the rooms talking big poopie like you are a pro. A little poser like ryu comes up and gives you poopie back and you can’t handle it. You want to spar and then you whine and cry because if you take it ic you might lose a char and that isn’t fair.
Ryu, you messed up. This can’t be declared and auto death because there has to be rp for there to be death. There was no rp here because fenix is not an rp’er. He is a wannabe that never will be. Best advice, drop the little guy in your ignore bin, and move on and rp and keep it ic.
Fenix, crossing ic means that events of one separate rp is somehow introduced into another rp with out having role played any means for it to be introduced. Such as one of your chars avenging the death of another char with out the avenging char role playing any way of gaining the knowledge of the existence of the dead char. Taking ooc into ic is when your char is played with the ooc knowledge of the typist that is beyond what the char has experienced ic. Such as going ic and killing a char only because the typist of the other char called the typist of your char names.
However, it is not illegal to rp with someone you know ooc. It is not even illegal to rp with someone you have a grudge against ooc, in itself. As long as your rp is not crossing ic or taking ooc ic what the hell are you bitching about?
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Post by Lord Creed on Mar 19, 2005 22:51:21 GMT -5
Corban
Yes, the problem was that anyone could mistake fenix for a role player.
However, the rp in itself was only half illegal.
The first sentence gives away that this is an ic post placing him in an ic realm. However, the whole “makes planes shudder from his thought alone” = godmoding auto.
You must be on one of your little “p-universe” places with that. If you were trying to make a relating event you should have done this one instead:
I love parodies.
If you haven’t got it by now, you are too dense to bother trying to answer that one.
Tombstone is T1 default. It has been since day one and was one of the influencing factors on eden trying to go T1 default too before they shut down. No doubt the majority of fights being T2 have something to do with conflicts such as this and one side or the other deciding it is a hell of a lot easier and less time consuming to bash on someone with T2 then trying to use roleplay to sort out whatever conflict there may be.
I have to agree with ryu about a few things here about you corban. First, yeah you don’t know much about T1. I knew that before he pointed out that would be an auto for you to attempt what you suggested earlier. You have splendidly misconstrued what I can see happened. Fenix challenged ryu and ryu attempted to make fenix own up to his end of the challenge. I do not see anywhere that you could get ryu was running through rooms challenging everyone and when they did not accept declare them auto dead. But I am accustomed to your view of reality being warped. Your weakest link is this is still earth and your sword is something I would use to butter toast.
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Post by Mr Obvious on Mar 20, 2005 0:36:37 GMT -5
The only irony in all this is how you have managed to twist events around in your own mind fenix. I obtained an original copy of the transcript for my own perverse reasons, call me nosey or whatever. First you tell ryu that a .49 could exist even though they do not, and when told they do not you react in a fashion like a petulant child who sticks his fingers in his ears and yells “LALALALA” saying “fenix_vasterx : I'm not saying it does exist.. but I'm not going to believe you, or even five sites that you put up.” That is pretty insulting, telling someone who possesses a modicum of common sense that your illogical statements are valid against the face of reality. You then proceed to invent another gun that also does not exist. An “integral silenced .22.” fenix_vasterx : LOL, it's a Ruger .22 and it features an integral silencer you stupid bitch. fenix_vasterx : OWNED [7:53:59 PM] fenix_vasterx : LOLOL. [7:54:08 PM] fenix_vasterx : www.project-x.org.uk/images/picgfsruger22.jpgYou stated this gun is manufactured by ruger. I went to rugers website. They do not manufacture any weapon of any type that comes from the factory with a silencer already attached. Got any idea how many laws that would break? Silencers are not legal for civilian public to own. Bad enough your statements to a simple query were as insulting as they were. What made it worse was that your information was totally false. After that was pointed out to you, then you became more irate, the insulting bickering and bitching grew to greater extent until you put ryu on ignore, or at least claimed you did. Summing all this up. Fenix this is all your fault. You were insulting to ryu, you made an ass of yourself with false information and did nothing other then display your ignorance. You then challenged ryu after he made the statement: rising_dragon_ryu : Doesnt surprise me. Any 2 week newb to yahoo could own that idiot. fenix_vasterx : And, Ryu - if you wish to think that any "2 week newb" on Yahoo role play could own me, put your dukes up and stop e-trash talking. If ryu had been smart he would have left you on ignore. However, he was not and he treated fenix as any role player should be treated when issuing a challenge and stated the stipulations. Obviously fenix is someone who should not be treated with that respect and should be treated as any red headed step child in need of abuse and neglect. And corban, you would be a scary person if you knew as much as you think you knew about anything.
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Post by Ryu on Mar 20, 2005 1:52:35 GMT -5
I did some digging through the day while idly checking the boards to see what type of responce I was recieving. It has been interesting to say the least. Critical from one side, hypocritical from the other. First of all this started over a dispute over someone roleplaying with a .49 caliber handgun and treating me as if I were an idiot for not having heard of this fictitious firearm. Fenix jumped in ass first and did much the same with his "integral silenced .22" I made the comment after observing fenix's idiocy in action that he lacked the skill to survive against any novice rp'er. He proved me correct by demonstrating he can not even rp. One of the things I learned is this "seelie" that was referenced is in regard to the keeper tavern that sometimes shows up in games user rooms. Interesting website they have. Listed as one of the allies is fenix_vasterx. Now I am not going to cry about there being any bias, although I have no doubt how things would have turned out if he was a guard of that tavern because of the rules there. The rules that fenix rp's under to be regarded as an ally. General Combat Rules for Keeper's Tavern 1. T3, V-style and P-style are NOT recognized as a legal style for the room. 2. T1 and T2 are the default styles, no other styles will be allowed unless agreed upon by both combatants, and approved by the judge. 3. When in response to problems in the tavern, and in the line of duty, tavern guards are the effective defenders and automatically have right of choice. 4. Once a guard has chosen a style, if the challenger leaves the room without an excuse and does not return within 15 mins, the challenger is recorded as an autodead. 5. Keeper's Tavern does not advocate a forced fight, if you choose not to fight, simply ignore any advances, and click the person for the rest of the evening. Any response in rp towards the threat is deemed acceptance to the fight. Ignoring after that will result in an autodeath. 6. Ignoring the guards is not allowed without express permission of at least one of the owners. Ignoring the owners is prohibited without permission from the two other owners. 7. The owners decide whether a kill is legal and will be recorded in the graveyard. Only those that are killed within the room, or witnessed by another guard or owner will be viewed as legal. 8. Keeper is the only one with auto privileges, all others will be voided. 9. Tavern rules supersede all others. Like i said, interesting. Rule 4 contradicts 5. rule 4 is what I am the one bring preached against. www.geocities.com/keeprulz/combat.htmlAnyway, i do believe that the maker of the room has the right to set their own rules. These seem to me to be more then corrupt. However, the auto death rule is something that fenix has rp'd under and has had it enforced on other people on his behalf, however im condemned for expecting him to follow his own standards. Ironic isnt it?
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